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 Post subject: Re: please be careful out there!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:46 pm 
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Decoxx thats very bad, chin up matey!

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 Post subject: Re: please be careful out there!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:49 pm 
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Just watch the program mentioned a few posts up, http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01p7q2l/, some good points of view there and good to see more coppers on bikes. The solution at the end would never work, don't drive and don't cycle. Can you image the tube with all the extra people on it! Now where can a get a cheap decent-ish helmet cam?


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 Post subject: Re: please be careful out there!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:30 pm 
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If you have iphone there is an app called witness which is perfect for commutes!

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 Post subject: Re: please be careful out there!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:31 am 
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Eccles wrote:
Just watch the program mentioned a few posts up, http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01p7q2l/, some good points of view there and good to see more coppers on bikes. The solution at the end would never work, don't drive and don't cycle. Can you image the tube with all the extra people on it! Now where can a get a cheap decent-ish helmet cam?


i watched some of that programme and to be honest i would run that nob over who had a row with the cab driver.
he had no need to touch his cab and his playing up for the camera just showed him to be a cock.

the simple solution is that people need to be more aware and realistic about where and when they can ride

not everyone is cut out for riding in rush hour or on busy london roads

i would never dream of taking my gf into london on a bike as she has none of the skills necessary to stay alive in those conditions, where as a nice jaunt down some country lanes is no problem at all.

i grew up in east london and rode or skated on busy roads from a very young age so i am more equipped to commute in london but even i'm not invincible and i often back down from situations.

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 Post subject: Re: please be careful out there!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:34 am 
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Eccles wrote:
Just watch the program mentioned a few posts up, http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01p7q2l/, some good points of view there and good to see more coppers on bikes. The solution at the end would never work, don't drive and don't cycle. Can you image the tube with all the extra people on it! Now where can a get a cheap decent-ish helmet cam?


Indeed, used to work for a tansport planning company who did stuff for TfL, there has always been a policy to try and get people off the tube and onto the surface either buses (hence why they are cheaper) and walking/cycling, whilst cycling has increased dramitically it still has many negativepoints, safety being the most obvious one (IMO throwing yourself down a steep alpine mountain on your bike is still less dangerous than a quick ride in London, (I used to occasionally ride from city to Old Street but thyere was a nice back street cycle route).

A obvious solution is to have a more bike-centric transport policy, cities like Amsterdam are obvious examples of this), this in turn makes cycling safer, more people do it and so on.

Everyone needs education, even pedestrians, anyone every tried to cycle length of Leigh - Shoebury cycle path in summer qwithout dodging dozy pedestrians on it !?

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